pathetic piss kitten (@kitten)

pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat

I probably should bring a long power cord to WHY

but maybe I could buy it there, so I don't have to carry it all the way? :neocat_think:

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(maya) @DHCP @maya@catgirl.global

@kitten BYOC always

and yes, you will need electricity at your tent, be it for charging your phone, or for other "things"/conveniences that you may want (in this one's case, the pump for its air mattress is a prime example)

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@maya @kitten large powerbanks that do PD are lifesavers, try to find the ones that will both take and give power so they work as a UPS of sorts

pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat

@sam @maya I have 2x of 100Wh, yip

pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat

(will I need electricity at my tent tho?)

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@kitten its nice to charge stuff

i would not expect to get a power cord on site. you might be able to buy one in NL though

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@kitten i hate power cables, by far the worst bit of going to a hacker camp is lugging one there and back, so much copper.

pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat

@erincandescent exactly my thought :blobfoxnotlikethis: even if I can hang it outside my backpack so it doesn't take space, the weight I can't save

pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat

@erincandescent yes but maybe I can do that at the village I'm at (?)

but yeah, it'd definitely be in NL or in Aachen when I'm there before, if I end up doing that

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@kitten @erincandescent if you buy one in DE you’ll also be fine, NL uses schuko as well

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@sam @kitten while i remember i need to check what alterations i made to our power cables before emf last year and possibly buy the bits to make them usable with schuko sockets again

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@sam @kitten right currently we have an obnoxiously long 16A CEE -> Shuko cable, I need to find the schuko male I took off the end...

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@erincandescent @kitten ah you’re already doing that to some extent

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@erincandescent @kitten LPT: use blue IEC60403 connectors as an intermediate for this sort of stuff instead of rewiring your cabling every time

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@erincandescent @kitten and sometimes you can plug that directly into their distribution boxes

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@4censord@unfug.social

@sam @erincandescent @kitten be aware that why does not have the blue plugs, only the schuko ones.
(unless this is for adapting to schuko, then disregard)
(wiki.why2025.org/Camping#Power_on_the_fields)

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@4censord @sam @kitten yeah I need to find where the short Schuko-> BS1363 adaptor cable has gone^† and convert it to a Schuko->16A CEE cable to deal with the fact that DE and NL do not believe in the One True 16A Outdoor Cable.

† Started its life as a 16A CEE -> BS1363 but I stole the CEE connector last year to make a 16A CEE -> Schuko cable and put the Schuko on the BS1363 cable for safe keeping; and then if memory serves I didn’t need to do the adaption anyway because we ended up just chaining out of a Schuko breakout someone else had brought

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@kitten @4censord @erincandescent NL believes in “The One True 16A Outdoor Cable” tbh, i’ve seen it used often in harbours and camp sites etc

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@4censord@unfug.social

@sam @kitten @erincandescent oh, germany uses it as well, e.g. for connecting campers to power. but well, not everywhere.
and i assume for why they have to use whatever infra they have available

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@4censord @sam @kitten i mean, you can do weatherproof schuko so it is more convenient for the events industry if everything is just schuko.

we don't do the same in the UK because (a) BS1363 isn't weatherproof and (b) we would like as few fuses and breakers up in the roof as possible please

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@4censord @kitten @sam (for the same reason the entertainments industry ends up running Socapex cables everywhere for lighting instead of 32Ax3s. Same current capacity, but you can keep the breakers where you can reach them without a ladder)

(I mean, it started because of dimmers, but it continues because its just a good idea)

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@kitten @4censord @erincandescent oh yeah BS1363 has fuses on the cables, that can be hell to debug

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@4censord@unfug.social

@sam @kitten @erincandescent oh that sounds horrible yeah, i forgot the british plug does that

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@4censord @sam @kitten If you're in an older British venue you might spot BS 546 15A (round pin) sockets for precisely this reason.

If you're in a more middle-age venue you might spot a mix of BS 546 and 16A 1P CEEForm. BS 546 was used for dimmed power, CEE for fixed. These days dimmed power is dead, of course

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@kitten @4censord @erincandescent hm did you do this sort of stuff for a living at some point perhaps

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@sam @kitten @4censord I worked in a nightclub during university.

I have not so fond memories of swearing because we were out of Socapex to 16A breakouts and I had to use a Socapex to BS 546 + a pile of BS546 to CEE adapters.

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@4censord @erincandescent @kitten ah, ouch

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@sam @4censord @kitten honestly I should embrace my chunni nature and replace all of the connectors on our power cables with the absolute best 16A power connector

Neutrik powerCON TRUE1

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@4censord @kitten @erincandescent sickos_yes.jpg

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@sam @4censord @kitten "Whats this IP44 you're talking about with CEE connectors? Where we're going were doing IP67"

Franziska @kunsi@chaos.social

@erincandescent @sam @kitten @4censord Can recommend doing that. I have 95m of True1 cables and adaptors and power strips to convert to everything.

(Including 3x16A CEEform to 3x True1, because you never know)

will-h @flangey@chaos.social

@kunsi @erincandescent @sam @kitten @4censord a problem with True1 in outdoor situations is that the IP rating is only when mated.

sam

@sam@gts.bodged.systems

@4censord @kitten @erincandescent yea this was a problem at MCH, a bunch of stuff was Belgian as there was barely anything else available

erincandescent ⎔ @erincandescent@erincandescent.net

@kitten depends upon when you want to charge things I guess! I really like being able to charge phones (don't forget the dect!) overnight while im sleeping

also tent lighting

Mira Jin @mira@purrple.place

diapers

@kitten In the worst case: buying one in Aachen? Then at least a bit of your diapers should have already been used and so you should have more space^^"