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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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In everyday German, 1st person singular conjugation has lost the -e suffix
wait, what?
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@kitten I mean, "Ich geb' dir das schnell" is what I would say, not "Ich gebe dir das". But it's not a general rule, I never say "ich lieb dich" to my girlfriend, always "ich liebe dich".
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@kitten "Ich fahr grad nach Wien" vs the formal and correct "Ich fahre gerade nach Wien"
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@kitten or on the topic of affection: "ich habe dich lieb" sounds extremely weird. It's always "ich hab dich lieb"
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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@lis how can just a single letter make it sound weird
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@kitten this is one of the things that make your language sound too formal, too unnatural. Imagine someone saying "is not" instead of "isn't" every single time. It's actually a pretty good way to spot people who have learned German with little direct exposure to German-speakers^^
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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@lis okay then what do I tell to all the German people in my replies saying "huh?"?
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@kitten probably because it's so natural to everyone that no one ever consciously thinks about the fact that most of us just drop the -e for a significant portion of words. But "ich hab", "ich geb", "ich fahr", "ich lauf", "ich mach", "ich sag", "ich denk" - all of these are absolutely normal in every-day informal language use
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@kitten there is even an orthographic convention that if you're going to use this in written language, you use an apostrophe to indicate the omitted e - ich hab' - but that's just a way of using informal language in formal settings.
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@kitten another interesting thing happens when you combine it with "es" as an object by the way: "ich mache es" tends to be contracted to a simple "ich mach's" for example. Ich gebs dir später, ich sags dir jetzt, ich brings dir gleich
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@kitten and in case you're wondering about use cases for the apostrophe form: in Government STI awareness ads for example^^
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@kitten @lis pretty sure they're all not understanding what that sentence means? it seems obvious to me and as a linguistically inclined person i might be acclimated more to this
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@kitten @lis so: yes, definitely, but also I remembered that in my dialect (Swabian) this has always been the standard form, so it's even less weird to me
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lia user_online @lianna@micro.webgarden.click
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@kitten @lis they just dont know what the word "conjugation" means probably lol

The above take you're responding to is completely correct by the way (German native & linguist here). I basically never use the "-e" ending there at any time.

"Hab gestern abend noch n bissl weiter Minecraft gespielt.", "Ich schlaf gleich ein" and "Ich wollt das gar nich :(" are all text messages I sent over the past 3 hours.
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Der Schrank @der_schrank@biplus.social
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@kitten @lis Mir fehlte ein Beispiel zu der Regel, weil ich nicht wusste, was gemeint war. Deshalb hätte ich fast mit „hä?“ geantwortet. 😅
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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@lis and who gave you all permission to do that?
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@kitten No idea about the others, but for me: neocat_sign_cult
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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@lis oh then I shouldn't use that as an example to follow
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@kitten hab ich nicht verstanden /j
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Stadler BLÅHAJ Evo bot @memdmp@catgirl.center
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@kitten wegen dieser information rast ich aus
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Stadler BLÅHAJ Evo bot @memdmp@catgirl.center
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@kitten this sounds so cursed to this unit's brain
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Klaus Frank @agowa338@chaos.social
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@memdmp @kitten
Tbh as a German reading this sentence is weird. It should be "raste", but if it was spoken it would be the other way around and saying "raste" instead of "rast" would be odd. Hmm...

It's only through others learning the language and pointing things like this out that one actually notices these quirks. Never even thought about this before.
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Stadler BLÅHAJ Evo bot @memdmp@catgirl.center
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@kitten @agowa338 as a german who's lived in switzerland for a considerable percentage of it's life, neither in germany nor switzerland would i have used raste without the e in neither spoken nor written german, outside of regional dialect and jokingly using it in the response above

it sounds so cursed to me
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0CB45 D9XPF µT @aliceif@mkultra.x27.one
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@agowa338 @memdmp @kitten I think it depends on the word?
Like any verbs with an e mid syllable feel very natural to drop it (gehen, stehen, sehen) - excuse my bad attempts of doing IPA type stuff - ge', se', ste' are nicer than ge'e, se'e, ste'e

But as said with rasten it doesn't.
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Bubu progress_pride @Bubu@chaos.social
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@kitten Never thought about this... but sounds about right? 🤔

Probably not in all contexts, settings and dialects but for some forms of informal speech, I'd agree.
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@kitten what??
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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@alina I don't know you tell me
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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@alina (I didn't copy the part afterwards that specified "colloquially, in informal speech")
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@kitten ohhh you mean the verb, yes that is a thing
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@kitten "ich habe" -> "ich hab' "

both means "i have"
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flori_ava:~$left_terminal_cursor @starflower@tech.lgbt
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@alina @kitten huh???
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