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Xerz ๐Ÿ’— @xerz@fedi.xerz.one
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sometimes, just sometimes

you remember
mastodon.social is real
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Xerz ๐Ÿ’— @xerz@fedi.xerz.one
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ngl tho, Mastodon should be able to tell thatโ€™s a link

but:
itfine
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Frost, Wolffucker ๐Ÿบtherian @IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net
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@xerz IMO it /shouldn't/. Domains are not links and it's /good/ that Mastodon lets us talk about domains without turning them into links. Other software should cut it out.

If you want a link, put https:// on it.
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Xerz ๐Ÿ’— @xerz@fedi.xerz.one
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@IceWolf you can just use commonmark.org for that
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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@xerz @IceWolf not in vanilla Mastodon I think
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Xerz ๐Ÿ’— @xerz@fedi.xerz.one
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@kitten @IceWolf if someone knows enough about tech to understand links and Markdown, they probably wonโ€™t stay in mastodon.social for long anyway

but: yeah, would be nice to have it on vanilla
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@kitten @xerz @IceWolf vanilla displays this properly, but you cant write this on it

but i do agree, if its a http(s) link, put that there
not everything should be turned into clickable links from plaintext
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Xerz ๐Ÿ’— @xerz@fedi.xerz.one
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@4censord @kitten @IceWolf meanwhile, I think that if a string matches an URI with an internet domain, then it should behave as a link, since itโ€™s unlikely to be meant as anything other than a web (HTTP{,S}) resource

like, the biggest exception to doing this I can think of is talking about technical issues, which is
not what most people are doing
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@xerz @IceWolf @kitten i guess it depends on what exactly you are doing, and how you do the matching
because it has happened (to me) before that something that isnt remotely a link was turned into a link, breakiung up hte whole flow of text around it because now there are (link previews, suggestive links warning (see image), the like)

so if your frontend does the link detection and makes it clicky, i dont care. but if your backend does the detection, maybe even adds on a https://, and puts it into a
<a> tag, then i dislike that
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Frost, Wolffucker ๐Ÿบtherian @IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net
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@xerz @kitten @4censord ...Uh, no, talking about domains (e.g. fedi instances) without linking to them is a perfectly normal thing to want to do.

And no, I shouldn't have to use code formatting, or ANY formatting, to stop the autolinking.

Things just shouldn't autolink unless it is ABUNDANTLY clear that it is meant as a link (e.g. has a scheme on it).

Like. Yes there is an HTTP(S) thing there. No, that does NOT mean I'm trying to link to it.
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Xerz ๐Ÿ’— @xerz@fedi.xerz.one
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@IceWolf @kitten @4censord most people who use links have no idea what a protocol or a scheme are, I think this is a common usecase
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Frost, Wolffucker ๐Ÿบtherian @IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net
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@xerz @kitten @4censord "Most people who use links" have never seen an http:// in their life?

Then this is a user education problem. The solution is not "make it literally impossible to talk about a website without linking to it".

Where do you stop? One of our XMPP clients autolinks ANYTHING that could MAYBE POSSIBLY be construed as a date, time, or time range, making it impossible to say things like "I had bagels for breakfast today" without it turning "today" into a link. That's not acceptable.

Linking bare domains isn't either. Let people talk ABOUT websites without linking TO them.
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Xerz ๐Ÿ’— @xerz@fedi.xerz.one
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@IceWolf @kitten @4censord funny you mention that, since a lot of people love that while using Google, Apple and Microsoft services (I donโ€™t think it fits on a social network tho, where you donโ€™t usually schedule work things or meetups)

if you want to have an understanding of the fundamentals of your tech, youโ€™re likely not on
mastodon.social anyway
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