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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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train discourse I must say at this point I'm afraid I feel ready to say:

dutch people, your trains are just uncomfortable, at least the ICs, in some very specific ways.
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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train discourse three main points:
- what the hell are those doors for the seating areas??? like, you really couldn't find a more inconvenient design, could you?
- the stairs to access the upper/lower level are just too uncomfortable for some reason. probably lack of space, specially on the part before that awful door. this is something I haven't felt with french TGVs
- where's the luggage space? or at least a shelf to place one's backpack? am I missing something?
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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train discourse tbh the doors don't even isolate that much, they might as well just get rid of them
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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train discourse okay, I just noticed one last thing

are you seriously telling me that some of the seats in first class don't have power outlets???
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Lis (≙) retired account @lis@luisa.is
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train discourse @kitten yes, and none at all in 2nd class (except for the latest generation). NS is a bit stubborn there, they were really quick with rolling out Wifi but didn’t want to do power sockets until very recently
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Èlia 🌸🦊 @guineu_roja@tech.lgbt
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train discourse @kitten notjustbikes in shambles
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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train discourse @guineu_roja yeah I'm afraid this is the part they don't tell you about dutch public transport
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Èlia 🌸🦊 @guineu_roja@tech.lgbt
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train discourse @kitten I think his videos would be better if he didn't just show all the good things but also talked about the bad ones, because it sometimes becomes glaring even if you have never seen and used those trains
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Lis (≙) retired account @lis@luisa.is
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train discourse @kitten in the areas where seats face each other, there is quite a bit of room between the backs of the seats, that’s probably the largest convenient storage space
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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train discourse @lis I'm afraid that won't cut it for me
my oversized luggage in an NS train, a big suitcase between two seats and a big backpack in one of those two seats. there's also a canal in Amsterdam visible through the window
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Lis (≙) retired account @lis@luisa.is
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train discourse @kitten yeah, no^^
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Luna R @lunarood@mastodon.gamedev.place
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train discourse @kitten @lis lol, my first reaction seeing this picture was "wait, our trains don't have red seats"... and then I remembered that "first class" still exists.

It's a scam, and a stain on our transport system, especially when they keep making drama about a "shortage of rolling stock". We don't lack rolling stock! They're just running empty cars, while packing everyone into the effectively identical "second class" sections.

(I also agree with the other points you raised)
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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re: train discourse @lunarood @lis yeah but in my case it was basically like just 40€ extra in my Interrail pass, and I got to see how it is, plus potentially more seat reservations available
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Luna R @lunarood@mastodon.gamedev.place
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re: train discourse @kitten @lis oh yeah, no, my criticism was not at all directed at you for using first class. It can make sense sometimes (especially as part of a package), and you do avoid the crowdedness. My issue is rather with how NS manages their rail service.
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