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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
1y
hacker events discourse, hot take there's a lot of "drama" associated to these kind of events and in a way it's legitimate, issues and mistakes should be pointed out and discussed (and some are less excusable)

but I also see some general negativity and cynicism that just... feels plain unhealthy, and not really constructive

there were fuck-ups at WHY. responsibilities should be taken and it should be prevented in the future. but still, I loved the event, I had a super nice time, and I'm super happy to have decided to come here.

I saw and heard some similar stuff regarding the FLINTA cruising from last weekend, and I feel exactly the same, with the difference that in there I can't even think of any actual issues (also, in that case it was sometimes coated in a layer of slutshaming that some people should really work on).
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LilaHexe @LilaHexe@fedi.lilahexe.top
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@kitten it's a shame really, because I believe some of it is genuinely valuable feedback.

But because it's all subposts (I assume?) I don't see any of it :(

So uhhhh got feedback for the FLINTA Cruising? Is there a specific reason you didn't want to attend, that could be changed?

Please feel free to directly let me know! I might not be able to incorporate the feedback (some of it is contradictory), but more data points are always appreciated!
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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@LilaHexe oh, I might have expressed myself incorrectly. what part hints that I might have not wanted to attend? I did right from the beginning, and even changed plans to be able to come ​:neocat_laugh_sweat:​

with "I feel exactly the same" I was referring to "I loved the event, I had a super nice time, and I'm super happy to have decided to come here". as I said, I didn't notice any issues.
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AliciaBytes @AliciaBytes@polycule.li
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@kitten @LilaHexe
I did right from the beginning, and even changed plans to be able to come ​:neocat_laugh_sweat:​
Kitten was excited neocat_aww
And it seems to have been absolutely worth it!
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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@AliciaBytes @LilaHexe yes, I'm sorry ​:neocat_laugh_sweat:​

but at the end it worked out without issues, we had a lovely weekend, and even got to see you a week earlier
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AliciaBytes @AliciaBytes@polycule.li
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@kitten @LilaHexe Yes, it worked out perfectly. Arrived perfectly to welcome my new friend Snuggles with me. 🦥💜
And it was a really nice weekend
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LilaHexe @LilaHexe@fedi.lilahexe.top
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@kitten ohhhh yeah the "you" was referring to a potential reader who had subposted about the flinta cruising, not @kitten specifically
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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@LilaHexe ohhh, understood
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Alice 🌸 now with 35% more 🥶 @al1ce_rabb1t@horny.jetzt
1y
hacker events discourse, hot take @kitten there’s always gonna be some drama at any event organized, no matter what or where. Not going to an event because <insert dramatic reason> will just result in missing out on an event that’s probably incredibly fun regardless. Valid criticism is a good thing, like you say. But nitpicking shouldn’t be blown up too much. I had my nitpicks but had an amazing (and very gay) time regardless. My main issue was with myself because I just was too exhausted, in all honesty, but still made it through and had fun!
And with the FLINTA cruising, the issues that did come up (as far as I’ve heard) did not impact my experience. And the organizing party did their absolute best in that regard 💜
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551724 v_tb v_saph (maya) @maya@catgirl.global
1y
hacker events discourse, hot take @kitten would rate as lukewarm take tbh ^~^

the drama was mostly due to various team members venting, especially those that were negatively affected by decisions in a way that incurred disruption to timelines or their ability to operate, which, although is uncohesive, can be understandable in this one's opinion.

we will see what responsibility is taken, this one wouldn't be surprised if a significant amount of the drama gets swept under the rug, because "it all worked out in the end" (on the backs of certain creatures/teams, some of whom will have sadly burnt out).

re: FLINTA cruising, this one agrees with your assessment.
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Leah Neukirchen @leah@blahaj.social
1y
hacker events discourse, hot take @maya @kitten as usual, the people who enjoy an event post less on fedi. ;)
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Mx Amber Alex (she/it) 😷 @amberage@eldritch.cafe
1y
re: hacker events discourse, hot take @leah @maya @kitten you never hear about all the planes that don't crash
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551724 v_tb v_saph (maya) @maya@catgirl.global
1y
hacker events discourse, hot take @leah @kitten this one posted a lot ^~^ (mostly funny OH's tho)
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fungus! (standy backup account) @hypha@catgirl.cloud
1y
hacker events discourse, hot take @maya @leah @kitten touch less phone, touch more girls (and enbies (and cats (and bots (and fondue (an-
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551724 v_tb v_saph (maya) @maya@catgirl.global
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hacker events discourse, hot take @leah @kitten @hypha yes, that was the hope, and how it happened
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
1y
hacker events discourse, hot take @hypha @leah @maya I wish I had fondue :(
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551724 v_tb v_saph (maya) @maya@catgirl.global
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hacker events discourse, hot take @hypha @leah @kitten you could've, we will organize something next camp
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sam neobot_mask_cat @sam@gts.bodged.systems
1y
hacker events discourse, hot take @kitten @leah @hypha @maya i hope the fondue won’t leak next time :(
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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hacker events discourse, hot take @maya @hypha @leah I was told there was already too many beings I think
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fungus! (standy backup account) @hypha@catgirl.cloud
1y
hacker events discourse, hot take @kitten @maya @leah wasn’t invited, won’t force itself in
maybe next time ^^
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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hacker events discourse, hot take @maya yeah, like, I understand the people who have had to deal with all that extra workload needing to vent, without it even needing to be constructive or anything other than releasing some frustration

but I also see occasions where that's not really the case
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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hacker events discourse, hot take I don't know. what I'm trying to say is that sometimes I get some very negative vibes when it comes to this stuff
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hacker events discourse, hot take @kitten most of the time it boils down to “how dare you have fun without my permission”
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pathetic piss kitten @kitten@elizabeth.cat
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hacker events discourse, hot take @lis yes. and you know, that is kind of an understandable feeling, at least in an "empathizing" way. but then maybe that's what people should express, "I don't like people enjoying themselves without me", or "I can't go to this thing and that makes me upset and try to find a reason to not want to go" at least are feelings one can start working with
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hacker events discourse, hot take @kitten but that requires a desire for empathy on both sides. You see, here I have this lever labled “social power”, and it’s really easy to find a group of righteous warriors for my own side who will give me a feeling of relevance and moral superiority, so why shouldn’t I pull it?
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